Canlyniadau 81–100 o 2240 ar gyfer speaker:Lloyd Russell-Moyle

Written Answers — Department for Work and Pensions: Employment: Viral Diseases ( 5 Maw 2024)

Lloyd Russell-Moyle: To ask the Secretary of State for Work and Pensions, whether the Health and Safety Executive has plans to update its guidance on workplace transmission of blood borne viruses.

Written Answers — Department of Health and Social Care: Fertility: HIV Infection ( 4 Maw 2024)

Lloyd Russell-Moyle: To ask the Secretary of State for Health and Social Care, what her planned timetable is for laying secondary legislation that enables people living with an undetectable viral load of HIV to access fertility treatment.

Prayers - [Mr Speaker in the Chair] : Conversion Practices (Prohibition) Bill — [Mr Speaker in the Chair] ( 1 Maw 2024)

Lloyd Russell-Moyle: I do not agree with much of what the right hon. and learned Member is saying. She must recognise that we do legislate in the House for things other than harms. For example, we legislate against false advertising. We legislate in other areas to say that people cannot do certain things, even if they do not cause direct harm to individuals, because it is for the social good of the fabric of our...

Prayers - [Mr Speaker in the Chair] : Conversion Practices (Prohibition) Bill — [Mr Speaker in the Chair] ( 1 Maw 2024)

Lloyd Russell-Moyle: It is clear in the exemptions that individual prayer is not caught by the Bill, but if Members feel that that is too thinly defined, we could thrash it out in Committee. Can the right hon. and learned Member tell me any mainstream religion whose religious texts say, “You must change your sexual orientation or your transgender identity”? I am not aware of any, so I do not understand why...

Prayers - [Mr Speaker in the Chair] : Conversion Practices (Prohibition) Bill — [Mr Speaker in the Chair] ( 1 Maw 2024)

Lloyd Russell-Moyle: The right hon. Gentleman says he does not understand or has not heard scenarios in the debate that would be covered by the Bill but are not covered by existing legislation. I give him the scenario of an unregulated therapist—that is, someone who is not part of any registered body, of which we have many in this country who do significant harm, and there is another debate, possibly, about...

Prayers - [Mr Speaker in the Chair] : Conversion Practices (Prohibition) Bill — [Mr Speaker in the Chair] ( 1 Maw 2024)

Lloyd Russell-Moyle: I do not want to delay the Minister, because we want to get on with this now. She will acknowledge that I twice presented these clauses to the Government. Twice the Government came to me and said, “We will get amendments to you within a week.” I agreed that I would accept any Government amendment. Twice the Government came back saying, “No, we don’t have any amendments yet for you...

Prayers - [Mr Speaker in the Chair] : Conversion Practices (Prohibition) Bill — [Mr Speaker in the Chair] ( 1 Maw 2024)

Lloyd Russell-Moyle: First, the Minister has to recognise that the Bill will be brought into force in Scotland or Northern Ireland only if there is the consent of the legislators and Ministers in those two places. Secondly, the argument she has just given is legally incorrect, because in Scotland there is already a requirement for the Crown Office and Procurator Fiscal Service to give authorisation for private...

Prayers - [Mr Speaker in the Chair] : Conversion Practices (Prohibition) Bill — [Mr Speaker in the Chair] ( 1 Maw 2024)

Lloyd Russell-Moyle: claimed to move the closure ( Standing Order No. 36).

Prayers - [Mr Speaker in the Chair] : Conversion Practices (Prohibition) Bill — [Mr Speaker in the Chair] ( 1 Maw 2024)

Lloyd Russell-Moyle: I do not believe and I have not seen evidence that modern conversion therapy is a widespread practice. However, the hon. Member must recognise that the Bill does not say that one thing is banned for the other; it says that both, if they are happening, are abhorrent and should stop. Surely he should support the Bill so that it can go to Committee and provide the safeguards he wants, because it...

Prayers - [Mr Speaker in the Chair] : Conversion Practices (Prohibition) Bill — [Mr Speaker in the Chair] ( 1 Maw 2024)

Lloyd Russell-Moyle: The hon. Member is making such a long speech that we might as well have a bit of a dialogue about some of these things. Such bans have been introduced with similar assurances and clarifications in other European countries that are under the convention. Why is it that that legislation has not ended up in the European courts, but he thinks that this Bill, which is even more cautious, suddenly...

Prayers - [Mr Speaker in the Chair] : Conversion Practices (Prohibition) Bill — [Mr Speaker in the Chair] ( 1 Maw 2024)

Lloyd Russell-Moyle: I beg to move, That the Bill be now read a Second time. When my former partner disclosed to me that he had twice gone through conversion practices, first facilitated through his family in church and secondly through his work in the church, I was shocked that such practices still take place in the 21st century. The trauma he still carries around with him is immense. No number of laws can...

Prayers - [Mr Speaker in the Chair] : Conversion Practices (Prohibition) Bill — [Mr Speaker in the Chair] ( 1 Maw 2024)

Lloyd Russell-Moyle: I totally agree. Everyone in the House will know that I am not immune to getting stuck into this debate. We have had sparring partners across the Chamber on these issues, but that has led us nowhere. It has led to the delay itself and given a green light to many who think this practice might now be acceptable, rather than the abhorrence we all think it to be.

Prayers - [Mr Speaker in the Chair] : Conversion Practices (Prohibition) Bill — [Mr Speaker in the Chair] ( 1 Maw 2024)

Lloyd Russell-Moyle: I will come to exactly that in a moment, but the hon. Member makes valid points that we should address. Some were worried when I was drawn in the private Member’s Bill ballot that I would produce, as one Whip put it, a “batshit crazy” Bill. Others were worried that I would produce a Bill that would not stop this practice and would have too many loopholes. But after months of meetings,...

Prayers - [Mr Speaker in the Chair] : Conversion Practices (Prohibition) Bill — [Mr Speaker in the Chair] ( 1 Maw 2024)

Lloyd Russell-Moyle: I quite agree. I understand from previous conversations that the Government do not outright oppose the Bill—we will see how the Minister responds today, as that might have slightly changed. It is quite right that they do not oppose it, because they have put forward this proposal numerous times. They are reserving judgment on some of the technicalities. I have given the Government two...

Prayers - [Mr Speaker in the Chair] : Conversion Practices (Prohibition) Bill — [Mr Speaker in the Chair] ( 1 Maw 2024)

Lloyd Russell-Moyle: I quite agree. That is why it is important that the Government support the Bill, and thrash out the details later in Committee. When I met the Secretary of State we talked about two-track progress: get the Bill in Committee, and use it to thrash out the details and allow the Government to keep developing their own plans, informed by the Committee. I hope the Government will honour the spirit...

Prayers - [Mr Speaker in the Chair] : Conversion Practices (Prohibition) Bill — [Mr Speaker in the Chair] ( 1 Maw 2024)

Lloyd Russell-Moyle: That is exactly why I have used words that already exist in legislation. We can have that debate on the Sentencing Act 2020 and on the Equality Act 2010—I wish you good luck in that—but rather than trying to debate things that this House has already settled, let us move forward with how we try to stop these practices.

Prayers - [Mr Speaker in the Chair] : Conversion Practices (Prohibition) Bill — [Mr Speaker in the Chair] ( 1 Maw 2024)

Lloyd Russell-Moyle: I will come to the hon. Gentleman’s point and will suggest an amendment that might, if he were to allow it to proceed in Committee, make him feel happy and resolve the situation.

Prayers - [Mr Speaker in the Chair] : Conversion Practices (Prohibition) Bill — [Mr Speaker in the Chair] ( 1 Maw 2024)

Lloyd Russell-Moyle: I totally agree. In the process of writing the Bill, I endeavoured to meet everyone who asked. I visited people in their communities across the country and I invited people to meet in this place. I want to thank various groups, including Stonewall, the Ban Conversion Therapy campaign group, TransActual, TransLucent, and the medical profession. But I also want to thank people who have very...

Prayers - [Mr Speaker in the Chair] : Conversion Practices (Prohibition) Bill — [Mr Speaker in the Chair] ( 1 Maw 2024)

Lloyd Russell-Moyle: That is why the predetermined purpose is so important in the Bill. Rather than having arguments about which evidence is better, I have sought a way to find a framework that addresses the real or perceived problems of what it is claimed is happening in any direction. I think we should all agree that it is abuse and the Bill will stop it. I understand the nervousness of some in the trans...


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