Mr John Jones: Would the hon. Gentleman tell me whether at the many meetings when he supported other speakers and when he was speaking for himself in his own constituency, he was so convinced that nationalisation was such a complete lack of success that he advocated denationalisation of the coal industry and of the railways?
Mr John Jones: The present Minister of Power has recently appointed—on 1st June this year—Sir Thomas Williamson and Mr. Harry Douglas, the trade union leaders appointed part-time on the Steel Board. Thus, he has direct control of the Board which, in him, is supposed—I use the word advisedly—to have the control of the whole of the industry. So the Minister has direct responsibility for the...
Mr John Jones: And badges.
Mr John Jones: On a point of order. May I ask you, Sir William, if it will be possible to continue the debate on this series of Amendments after the Chancellor has spoken? I have been sitting here for 10½ hours and have not said a word.
Mr John Jones: At the risk of being unpopular by speaking now—having sat through the debate—I want to suggest that for once the hon. Member for Kidderminster (Mr. Nabarro) should be encouraged to pursue the line of thought in these eleven Amendments. I welcome the fullest opportunity for the expenditure of public money on the nationalised industries to be examined on the Floor of the House, and from...
Mr John Jones: In a debate on the question of world affairs by the experts on these matters, I want to express what I think the ordinary man in the street is thinking about this position. I refuse to be discouraged by the failure of something that did not take place. The Summit talks did not take place, and therefore they cannot have been a failure. I am quite satisfied that any failure to have the meeting...
Mr John Jones: No.
Mr John Jones: To say that the producers of glasshouse tomatoes can do nothing else is nonsense.
Mr John Jones: Nonsense.
Mr John Jones: The housewife is also important.
Mr John Jones: I do not intervene to oppose this Order, but there are always one or two questions one is entitled to ask when such a Measure is being discussed. There may be people asking, "What the devil does this fellow know about tomatoes?" The answer is that I have more varieties of tomatoes growing and have won more prizes for them in open shows than most hon. Members in this House. That has been...
Mr John Jones: Would the hon. Member not agree that where the inefficiency occurred was in the use of the square feet of space in that area at other times of the year for other purposes? The case which the hon. Member quotes from his own constituency proves my point. Equipment of that kind should be used efficiently for other purposes during the periods when tomatoes are not being grown.
Mr John Jones: They are doing all right.
Mr John Jones: They do not need any subsidy.
Mr John Jones: It may not be a point of order. It is a point of honour.
Mr John Jones: It is a point of honour.
Mr John Jones: It would be a little awkward if a man whose wage was £9 19s. 10d. a week had 4d. underpaid one week and he received the 10s. 6d. next week and was thereby overpaid.
Mr John Jones: So the hon. Member would have us believe.
Mr John Jones: It is a subsidy. It is the same thing.
Mr John Jones: Tonight, the hon. Member for Guildford (Sir R. Nugent) advocated the appointment of a Government director to look after eggs. Last week, when we advocated the appointment of a good chap to look after steel, the whole of the blooming benches opposite voted against us.