Mr John Jones: From where?
Mr John Jones: Will the right hon. Gentleman say at what rate of interest the High Authority of the E.C.S.C. can borrow millions of marks, and so on?
Mr John Jones: It is very important.
Mr John Jones: The debate is on a Motion to take note of the Report of the Iron and Steel Board. For the last ten or twelve minutes we have been listening to a dissertation about the lack of opportunities for the hon. Member for Walsall, South (Sir H. d'Avigdor-Goldsmid) to invest some spare money in what has proved to be a very advantageous enterprise to the Government. He should not take his Front Bench...
Mr John Jones: If the denationalisation of the railways could have helped to put the steel industry on its feet, will the hon. Gentleman explain why eleven years have passed during which the present Government could have done it but did not?
Mr John Jones: There are also the tremendous number of shifts which have been lost, but which were formerly worked as overtime.
Mr John Jones: We have listened to my hon. Friend's quotation about prices from the speech of Lord Ridley, but would it alarm my hon. Friend to hear that Lord Ridley is also the father of the hon. Member for cirencester and Tewkesbury (Mr. Ridley)?
Mr John Jones: And fibre glass.
Mr John Jones: My toon. Friend has mentioned the constituency of Flint, Bast. He will remember that a very fine new mill was put down there, but its use has been so uncertain that it has been taken up, and sold, lock, stock and barrel, to Canada.
Mr John Jones: That is half our rate.
Mr John Jones: That is 3½ per cent. from a nation defeated and disrupted and "knocked to the devil", as we say, compared with the higher rates which our people have to pay for their loans.
Mr John Jones: Most unsatisfactory.
Mr John Jones: What the hell has it to do with you?
Mr John Jones: At the serious risk of being asked, "What has this to do with you?", I would make it clear at the outset that since the Bill affects Kent and the River Rother—although I do not intend to engage in a private war that seems to be raging among hon. Gentlemen opposite—I want to make certain that the Measure does not have any adverse effects on people who fish in inland waters. The inshore...
Mr John Jones: They have waited long enough.
Mr John Jones: Before the hon. Gentleman leaves the question of the failure of the leaders of the European Mineworkers' Union to bring the African along as quickly as they would wish, would he tell the House why the Africans are not allowed to be in the same union as the people who are failing to bring them along?
Mr John Jones: As the right hon. Gentleman knows, there are two mineworkers' unions operating in the copper mines. He stated in his speech that the leaders of the white trade union are complaining about their failure to bring the African along. What about the failure of the white trade unionist to bring the African within his own union?
Mr John Jones: As the right hon. Gentleman knows, I am associated with a company which has a steel concern in Rhodesia. In the last six months a multiracial steel union has been formed and is operating there.
Mr John Jones: Seventy of them.
Mr John Jones: The hon. Member can say that again.
