Canlyniadau 81–100 o 1250 ar gyfer speaker:Mr Moss Turner-Samuels

Orders of the Day — Industrial Rating Bill (27 Ebr 1956)

Mr Moss Turner-Samuels: May an English Member interrupt? Would the hon. Gentleman tell us how he justifies excusing a privileged section of the community from paying their rates?

Orders of the Day — Industrial Rating Bill (27 Ebr 1956)

Mr Moss Turner-Samuels: The hon. Gentleman says that, but the structure is there for everybody else now. Why should it not be there for this section of the community?

Orders of the Day — Restrictive Trade Practices Bill: Clause 4. — (Appointment of Other Members of Court.) (26 Ebr 1956)

Mr Moss Turner-Samuels: I recognise that at the moment this is purely an experimental matter. While it may not be an exact analogy, will the right hon. Gentleman tell us the minimum period for appointment to tribunals such as National Insurance tribunals and the land tribunals which I believe is somewhat similar?

Orders of the Day — Restrictive Trade Practices Bill: Clause 4. — (Appointment of Other Members of Court.) (26 Ebr 1956)

Mr Moss Turner-Samuels: I am sure that the President of the Board of Trade needs to be very careful about this matter. I should first like to take up the point made by my hon. and learned Friend the Member for Aberdeen, North (Mr. Hector Hughes). He said that the appointment of the judges would be for life. Of course, that is quite wrong. These are judges of the High Court, and it may be that they might sit in this...

Orders of the Day — Restrictive Trade Practices Bill: Clause 5. — (Agreements to Which Part I Applies.) (26 Ebr 1956)

Mr Moss Turner-Samuels: I am quite certain that my hon. Friends would not wish to press this Amendment if, in the end, it proved to be otiose. Suppose an agreement has been in operation prior to the operative commencement of the Act. When the Act is passed, in what way could its provisions be made effectively to apply? I am looking particularly at Clause 15. This troubles me, because the whole Amendment would be...

Orders of the Day — Restrictive Trade Practices Bill: Clause 5. — (Agreements to Which Part I Applies.) (26 Ebr 1956)

Mr Moss Turner-Samuels: With great respect, this is a question whether any restrictive agreement which began before the coming into operation of the Act should be included, and I referred to Clause 15 because that is the operative Clause which might apply, if the Bill applied at all.

Orders of the Day — Restrictive Trade Practices Bill: Clause 5. — (Agreements to Which Part I Applies.) (26 Ebr 1956)

Mr Moss Turner-Samuels: With great respect, I am asking the Minister to consider, not the effect of Clause 15, but whether this Amendment can serve any useful purpose. If it served any useful purpose I would support it, but I cannot see how it would do so. If it does not do so, and the President confirms that it does not do so, I cannot see its use.

Orders of the Day — Restrictive Trade Practices Bill: Clause 5. — (Agreements to Which Part I Applies.) (26 Ebr 1956)

Mr Moss Turner-Samuels: In my submission, Clause 32 (2) covers this point, because it says: This Act (except subsection (1) of section seven and section twenty-two) shall come into force on the expiration of the period of one month beginning with the date on which it is passed. I take it that would be a relevant test for fixing the date.

Orders of the Day — Restrictive Trade Practices Bill: Clause 5. — (Agreements to Which Part I Applies.) (26 Ebr 1956)

Mr Moss Turner-Samuels: If the Committee is to have a useful and practical result from the discussion, it should stick to the question of the language of the Clause, which, after all, is vital. The President of the Board of Trade will agree that the Clause refers to agreements to which Part I of the Bill is to apply. The subject matter of Part I deals with the registration and judicial investigation—and, I repeat,...

Orders of the Day — Restrictive Trade Practices Bill: Clause 5. — (Agreements to Which Part I Applies.) (26 Ebr 1956)

Mr Moss Turner-Samuels: The single trader would come within the Monopolies and Restrictive Practices (Inquiry and Control) Act, 1948?

Orders of the Day — Restrictive Trade Practices Bill: Clause 5. — (Agreements to Which Part I Applies.) (26 Ebr 1956)

Mr Moss Turner-Samuels: As I read these Amendments, I consider that what the President is attempting to do would seem to be a very laudable thing. In the ordinary way an individual who got himself associated with some other people might not be caught because in the operation of that agreement it would be said that he was an individual, was acting on it and getting the benefit of it and did not come within the terms...

Orders of the Day — Restrictive Trade Practices Bill: Clause 5. — (Agreements to Which Part I Applies.) (26 Ebr 1956)

Mr Moss Turner-Samuels: There is an even stronger point than that. I quite agree that this matter resolves itself into the question of registration. I should like to ask the President who will try the issue implicit in the words "unless the contrary is shown". Is it suggested that the Registrar should do so? First, there will be the question whether a certain agreement is the subject of registration. When the matter...

Orders of the Day — Restrictive Trade Practices Bill: Clause 5. — (Agreements to Which Part I Applies.) (26 Ebr 1956)

Mr Moss Turner-Samuels: I quite agree. We have decided that if those parties are members of a trade association they become parties to the agreement for the purposes of the Bill. It is in that sense that I want to deal with the matter. The Court will examine the point and make such qualifications as it thinks proper. It can make any order which it thinks proper in the circumstances. If it is right that anyone...

Orders of the Day — Restrictive Trade Practices Bill: Clause 5. — (Agreements to Which Part I Applies.) (26 Ebr 1956)

Mr Moss Turner-Samuels: Before the Minister finally decides this point, what I want to know, both in grammar and practice, is how we can have, in the words of subsection (4), if amended—"specific recommendations (whether express or implied) …"How can we have an implied specific recommendations?

Orders of the Day — Restrictive Trade Practices Bill: Clause 5. — (Agreements to Which Part I Applies.) (26 Ebr 1956)

Mr Moss Turner-Samuels: I appeal to the right hon. Gentleman not to accept any of the Amendments, but to consider the position and on Report tell the House what decision he has arrived at. It makes nonsense grammatically to talk about a "specific" recommendation "express or implied." In the interests of grammar alone, I beg the right hon. Gentleman to reconsider the matter.

Orders of the Day — Restrictive Trade Practices Bill: Clause 5. — (Agreements to Which Part I Applies.) (26 Ebr 1956)

Mr Moss Turner-Samuels: In deference to you, Sir Charles, perhaps I ought not to have said that. I am trying to tell the President that this will not work in practice. I merely ask him, for the sake of greater caution, to reconsider the matter and deal with it on Report.

Orders of the Day — Death Penalty (Abolition) Bill: Clause 1. — (Abolition of Death Penalty.) (25 Ebr 1956)

Mr Moss Turner-Samuels: I beg to move, in page 1, line 6, after "murder" to insert: except where the jury finds expressly that the kiting was a deliberate and calculated act. The object of the Amendment is to abolish the death penalty except in cases of deliberate killing. It will have certain other very important effects. It will gel rid of certain legal niceties, such as what is known as express or implied malice...

Orders of the Day — Death Penalty (Abolition) Bill: Clause 1. — (Abolition of Death Penalty.) (25 Ebr 1956)

Mr Moss Turner-Samuels: No, I cannot give way; I want no obstructive tactics here. The onus, of course, will be on the prosecution to satisfy the jury, and unless the jury is satisfied that there was a deliberate and calculated murder there can be no verdict on murder and no death penalty. I rest the case for this Amendment on four propositions which I will ask the Committee to consider very carefully. The first...

Orders of the Day — Death Penalty (Abolition) Bill: Clause 1. — (Abolition of Death Penalty.) (25 Ebr 1956)

Mr Moss Turner-Samuels: In my submission, this is very important and relevant, Sir Charles. I am seeking to show why the death penalty should be attached to cases of deliberate and calculated murder, and, in my humble submission, these matters are all closely relevant. I was saying that there have been 5,940 deaths a year on the roads, compared with 12 people hanged each year for murder. There is greater scope for...


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