Mr Neville Sandelson: We are against sin and we are, I expect, all for this Bill being given a Second Reading. Moral indignation at obvious social evil and personal wickedness is not the preserve of any particular section of this House, and the hon. Member for Bexleyheath (Mr. Townsend) knows that he commands the support of all of us—not least the Minister and the Home Secretary—in his desire to deal with,...
Mr Neville Sandelson: May we have an assurance that we shall have an early debate on foreign affairs?
Mr Neville Sandelson: May we have another debate on the CPRS review—that is, the Berril Report?
Mr Neville Sandelson: I shall be brief, not least because I agree so whole-heartedly with everything that has been said by previous speakers. I was particularly impressed with the points made by the hon. Member for the Isle of Wight (Mr Ross). I shall not reiterate the matters that he raised with the Minister. I second him in the answers and assurances that he sought, particularly on the time factor....
Mr Neville Sandelson: Does not my hon. Friend equally recognise that, whatever the administrative difficulties may be, there is a vital principle at stake? That should perhaps concern the House more than any other consideration.
Mr Neville Sandelson: The case against Section 3 is immense. This section is indefensible in principle, and in practice it is opposed by the judiciary at all levels. The overwhelming majority of Members at the Bar of all political sympathies and attachments who witness—unlike many hon. Members—these things in their professional experience in the courts are opposed to it. They see the deplorable consequencies...
Mr Neville Sandelson: I know that my hon. Friend would not wish to mislead the House—and indeed I do not disagree with the substance of much of his argument about discrepancies in sentencing between one judge and another, though, of course, arguments have already been advanced about why that may occur in most cases. However, I should be grateful if my hon. Friend would allow me to correct him about the earlier...
Mr Neville Sandelson: How does my hon. Friend know that they were innocent?
Mr Neville Sandelson: My right hon. Friend has referred to the specific benefits to be derived by British Airways and British Caledonian. Will he say something about the charters, bearing in mind the statement made yesterday by the spokesman for the Opposition, the hon. Member for St. Ives (Mr. Nott), in which he suggested that charters were at least as well off, and probably better off, under the old arrangements?
Mr Neville Sandelson: Would not my hon. Friend agree that per capita productivity has greatly increased in the industry he has referred to and that unemployment is quite different from productivity?
Mr Neville Sandelson: Will the hon. Gentleman give way?
Mr Neville Sandelson: I come in all the time.
Mr Neville Sandelson: Perhaps that is because the hon. Gentleman is not here very often.
Mr Neville Sandelson: I have no problems.
Mr Neville Sandelson: Would not that be the natural consequence of the act?
Mr Neville Sandelson: I should not, but others might.
Mr Neville Sandelson: No.
Mr Neville Sandelson: Would not the right hon. and learned Gentleman agree that Scandinavia has had more stable, democratic and Socialist Governments over many years with the proportional representation system?
Mr Neville Sandelson: Does not my hon. Friend feel that it would be better to have at the European Parliament representatives who are able to devote themselves exclusively to the interests of the one Parliament and to represent their constituency, whether it be the industry or the electorate as a whole in the constituency, in Europe rather than for them to have the almost impossible task of seeking to represent a...
Mr Neville Sandelson: The hon. Member for Richmond, Surrey (Sir A. Royle) made a most interesting speech. I agree with him that the Government have dithered over this issue for a long time and that they are continuing to dither. Indeed, that is the view of this country on this matter. It does Parliament no good at all. I believe that the electorate would echo at least one sentiment expressed by the right hon. and...