Mr Bowen Wells: With this we may discuss the following amendments: No. 12, in page 2, line 33, at end insert— `(2A) The Secretary of State may lay before Parliament an order to amend this section or Schedule 2A by— (a) adding any person to that Schedule; (b) omitting any person from that Schedule; (c) altering the description of any person mentioned in that Schedule; or (d) making provision...
Mr Bowen Wells: Order. It is perfectly in order to discuss anything that is related to schedule 2A dealing with the responsibilities of the Children's Commissioner for Wales, but it is not in order to explore the issues involved that might be considered. I hope that the hon. Gentleman has not stimulated an intervention, which would also be out of order.
Mr Bowen Wells: Order. The hon. Gentleman's exploration of the subject of swimming pools is undoubtedly interesting, but it is not in order and I would not encourage him to pursue it. We are discussing the responsibilities of the Children's Commissioner, but the discussion need not be quite as broad as he is making it.
Mr Bowen Wells: With this it will be convenient to discuss amendment No. 45, in page 2, line 22, at end insert— `(1A) The Commissioner may also review the effect on children of the failure of the Assembly or any person mentioned in Schedule 2A to exercise any function in relation to Wales.'.
Mr Bowen Wells: I remind the Committee that with this we are taking amendment No. 46, in page 2, line 15, at beginning insert— `(A1) The Commissioner may make appropriate representations to the National Assembly about any matter affecting the rights or welfare of children ordinarily resident in Wales.'.
Mr Bowen Wells: Order. I hope, for the benefit of the efficient dispatch of this Committee's business, that we will not follow the line that has been suggested to the Minister, and that we will not speculate on the leadership and/or intentions of the Opposition or any member of them or of the Government on this issue.
Mr Bowen Wells: Order. I have already ruled out of order references to other symbols of the kind that the Minister suggests.
Mr Bowen Wells: Yes, that is all out of order.
Mr Bowen Wells: Order. One of the problems with Committees concerns their going out of order through remarks from sedentary positions. It is my experience that Committees quickly get out of order if we permit it. I request the Committee to show restraint, although such contributions add to the enjoyment of the afternoon.
Mr Bowen Wells: Order. Again I must bring the attention of the hon. Gentleman to the fact that remarks that are very wide of the subject under discussion are certainly out of order.
Mr Bowen Wells: Order. Although it is in order to discuss the question of symbols of all kinds on the registration plate, it is not in order to discuss specific symbols, as we are beginning to do. As the Committee will appreciate, if we did that, we would end up discussing every possible symbol, which would clearly be out of order.
Mr Bowen Wells: Order. The point that I was trying to make to the Committee was that exactly the kind of arguments now being adduced by the hon. Gentleman are entirely out of order in a debate on the amendment.
Mr Bowen Wells: With this we may take amendment No. 56, in clause 33, page 18, line 26, leave out from `marks' to end of line 27 and insert `as may be necessary to link the registration plate to the vehicle for which it is intended'. New clause 5 -Provisions relating to regional symbols - (27A)(1) The Secretary of State shall prescribe no specifications that require a registration plate to contain or display...
Mr Bowen Wells: With this it will be convenient the following amendments: No. 14, in page 16, line 33, at end insert `or that the vehicle is roadworthy'. No. 15, in page 16, line 40, at end insert `and that they are roadworthy'. No. 16, in page 16, line 45, at end insert `and that they are roadworthy'. I call Mr. Bercow. I am sorry; I mean to call Mr. Chidgey.
Mr Bowen Wells: Line 28 contains the title of the proposed new section, which is ``Vehicle identity checks''. Therefore, the hon. Member for Eastleigh is in order.
Mr Bowen Wells: That is correct. In addition to amendment No. 28, we are debating amendments Nos. 10, 12, 29 and 11, but not amendments Nos. 30 and 31, which deal with fines.
Mr Bowen Wells: With this we may take amendment No. 31, in clause 27, page 14, line 34, leave out `4' and insert `5'.
Mr Bowen Wells: With this it will be convenient to take the following amendments: No. 10, in page 14, line 10, leave out `subsection (3)'. No. 12, in page 14, line 11, leave out `28 days', and insert `42 days'. No. 29, in page 14, line 11, leave out `28' and insert `14'. No. 11, in page 14, line 15, leave out `, (2) or (3)' and insert `or (2)'.
Mr Bowen Wells: Order. I draw the Committee's attention to the fact that we are not discussing amendments Nos. 30 and 31 with this group.
Mr Bowen Wells: Order. I have been more than generous in allowing the debate to extend to police resources, but we must now return to clause 25 and make proper use of our time.
