Canlyniadau 161–180 o 512 ar gyfer speaker:Baroness Golding

Pwyllgor Mesur Cyhoeddus: Hunting Bill: Schedule 3 - Hunting with dogs: prohibition ( 6 Chw 2001)

Mrs Llin Golding: Of course, Mr. O'Hara. A group has proposed a mink eradication scheme for the Hebrides. The plan is to saturate the islands with cages in such a way that the mink would be shifted north. The estimated cost of the scheme, which would eradicate mink from a fairly wide but none the less contained area, is £10 million. To eradicate mink in England and Wales through the same method would be even...

Pwyllgor Mesur Cyhoeddus: Hunting Bill: Schedule 3 - Hunting with dogs: prohibition ( 6 Chw 2001)

Mrs Llin Golding: One of my local fishery managers estimates that he has lost £1,000-worth of fish to mink in two years. He also said that, on the whole, mink do not eat the fish; they simply bite them and leave them maimed on the riverbank. Their natural instinct is to kill.

Pwyllgor Mesur Cyhoeddus: Hunting Bill: Schedule 3 - Hunting with dogs: prohibition ( 6 Chw 2001)

Mrs Llin Golding: A criminal conviction for removing rats from a brook behind people's houses because one or two people object is nonsensical. When I discussed that proposal with colleagues, several said that of course it would be thrown out in Committee, because we do not want to fine people for ratting.

Pwyllgor Mesur Cyhoeddus: Hunting Bill: Schedule 3 - Hunting with dogs: prohibition ( 6 Chw 2001)

Mrs Llin Golding: That is not the point that I was making. A stream at the bottom of a garden has two banks. If someone is in the stream ratting, they are not bound to climb into a garden and walk around. Indeed, I have never known anyone who goes ratting to go tramping around people's gardens looking for rats; there are enough rats around already without having to do that.

Pwyllgor Mesur Cyhoeddus: Hunting Bill: Schedule 3 - Hunting with dogs: prohibition ( 6 Chw 2001)

Mrs Llin Golding: What the Minister says is clear, but the brook runs behind 150 houses. It would not be a case of one person or a couple of people objecting. Does he seriously think that if a Bill were put before the House dealing simply with rodent control—preventing people ratting—people would turn up in droves to support it? That would be unbelievable.

Pwyllgor Mesur Cyhoeddus: Hunting Bill: Schedule 3 - Hunting with dogs: prohibition ( 6 Chw 2001)

Mrs Llin Golding: How can my hon. Friend describe ratting as a legalised business? It usually involves a couple of blokes going out with a terrier, hunting rats. That is not a legalised business; it is rodent control.

Pwyllgor Mesur Cyhoeddus: Hunting Bill: Schedule 3 - Hunting with dogs: prohibition ( 6 Chw 2001)

Mrs Llin Golding: How can the Minister justify making ratting a criminal offence? He said in Committee last week that he was bothered about including rabbits. Surely, someone who is ratting is doing the community a service.

Pwyllgor Mesur Cyhoeddus: Hunting Bill: Schedule 3 - Hunting with dogs: prohibition ( 6 Chw 2001)

Mrs Llin Golding: I want to take the Committee back to the subject of rats. As we are all aware, the Bill contains tight provisions relating to the control of rodents. A street in my constituency has a brook running along the bottom of it that is frequently infested with rats. The rats go into people's gardens. There is land behind the brook that may belong to the council, although there is a great deal of...

Pwyllgor Mesur Cyhoeddus: Hunting Bill: Schedule 3 - Hunting With Dogs: Prohibition (30 Ion 2001)

Mrs Llin Golding: I am glad that my right hon. Friend is not a lawyer, because I am more convinced by my point than I was before he spoke. The landowner gives permission for a hunt because, in most cases, his tenant does not have the power to give that permission. However, the tenant is obligated to the landowner to keep his land free of rodents and other animals, such as rabbits, that could damage his...

Pwyllgor Mesur Cyhoeddus: Hunting Bill: Schedule 3 - Hunting With Dogs: Prohibition (30 Ion 2001)

Mrs Llin Golding: The landowner knowingly says to his tenant, ``You must keep my land free of rodents and other pests.'' That is something that the tenant must do, but the landowner has not said that he can do it by any means. However, the landowner has knowingly said that the land must be kept free of pests. How can the landowner take responsibility for the consequences?

Pwyllgor Mesur Cyhoeddus: Hunting Bill: Schedule 3 - Hunting with dogs: prohibition (30 Ion 2001)

Mrs Llin Golding: It would be remiss of me not to mention mink in this debate. Anyone with common sense realises that mink have to be controlled—the question is how to control them. In keeping with the amendment, our side of the argument proposes that they should be controlled by mink hounds specially trained to do the job quickly and effectively. The alternative proposal, which is supported by many Labour...

Pwyllgor Mesur Cyhoeddus: Hunting Bill: Schedule 3 - Hunting with Dogs: Prohibition (25 Ion 2001)

Mrs Llin Golding: I do not deny that; it is absolutely right. The problem is, however, that if one has permission to go rabbiting, one has to take a gun. At the moment, it is usual to take just a ferret and a terrier to go rabbiting. In future, one will also have to carry a gun. It seems far more dangerous for more and more people to be wandering around the countryside with guns than to allow a dog to run...

Pwyllgor Mesur Cyhoeddus: Hunting Bill: Schedule 3 - Hunting with Dogs: Prohibition (25 Ion 2001)

Mrs Llin Golding: I am sure that if we looked at the many hundreds of people who follow foxhunting, not all of them will be on horseback, riding across the countryside. Many are viewers and do not chase the fox. I know that people do not go to chase mink. Mink tend to be in or near water and the hunt often follows them into the stream and upstream. There are, occasionally, problems with river banks, but one...

Pwyllgor Mesur Cyhoeddus: Hunting Bill: Schedule 3 - Hunting with Dogs: Prohibition (25 Ion 2001)

Mrs Llin Golding: In reply to my hon. Friend the Member for Brigg and Goole, when there are otters on a river bank, the mink disperse and move away. There is no need for mink hunting where there are otters. There is no need for the packs to go there. We do not know why, but that is what happens. When otters recolonise a river, the mink suddenly move up river and disappear. Those who hunt mink know where the...

Pwyllgor Mesur Cyhoeddus: Hunting Bill: Schedule 3 - Hunting with Dogs: Prohibition (25 Ion 2001)

Mrs Llin Golding: Will the Under-Secretary explain what is meant by land belongs to a person if he owns an interest in it? If someone is paying council tax and it is council land, does that mean he has an interest in it?

Pwyllgor Mesur Cyhoeddus: Hunting Bill: Schedule 3 - Hunting with Dogs: Prohibition (25 Ion 2001)

Mrs Llin Golding: I thought I was getting it, but I am still confused. The schedule says that land belongs to a person if he owns an interest in it Can someone own an interest in council land? Does someone own an interest in a main road in his council tax area?

Pwyllgor Mesur Cyhoeddus: Hunting Bill: Schedule 3 - Hunting with Dogs: Prohibition (25 Ion 2001)

Mrs Llin Golding: Send a letter by pigeon post.

Pwyllgor Mesur Cyhoeddus: Hunting Bill: Schedule 3 - Hunting with Dogs: Prohibition (25 Ion 2001)

Mrs Llin Golding: Mink tend to disappear when otters are present, but they do not disappear into thin air. They go on to fresh territories and do even more damage. Mink hunts report sightings of otters, in order that the otters can be protected. Hunts protect the environment as well as get rid of the mink.


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