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Pwyllgor Mesur Cyhoeddus: Football Governance Bill: Clause 55 - PART 6: OVERVIEW AND INTERPRETATION (21 Mai 2024)

Clive Betts: It would help if the Minister was clear on what he was suggesting the regulator should do to deal with the massive gap between the clubs with parachute payments and those in the Championship without. Is he suggesting that the regulator should come in and tell clubs with parachute payments, “You have got them, but you cannot actually spend them, or not all of them, because that is distorting...

Pwyllgor Mesur Cyhoeddus: Football Governance Bill: Clause 55 - PART 6: OVERVIEW AND INTERPRETATION (21 Mai 2024)

Clive Betts: Could the Minister explain what he has just said? I still do not understand how it is going to work. On the regulator’s powers to deal with the problem created by parachute payments, which he accepts could be created, what exactly are those powers? How does he expect the regulator to use them?

Pwyllgor Mesur Cyhoeddus: Football Governance Bill: Clause 55 - PART 6: OVERVIEW AND INTERPRETATION (21 Mai 2024)

Clive Betts: I am not convinced by the Minister’s arguments, I must say. I think that we will be giving further consideration to this, as I hope the Minister will, and that we will come back to this issue on another occasion. I just hope that, by the time we come back, the Minister might be able to better explain the powers of the regulator to smooth out the issues where there are problems for...

Pwyllgor Mesur Cyhoeddus: Football Governance Bill: Clause 55 - PART 6: OVERVIEW AND INTERPRETATION (21 Mai 2024)

Clive Betts: I beg to move amendment 27, in clause 55, page 45, line 1, leave out paragraph (b). This amendment allows the regulator to consider the effect of “parachute” payments when assessing the distribution of revenue between competition organisers.

Pwyllgor Mesur Cyhoeddus: Football Governance Bill: Clause 55 - PART 6: OVERVIEW AND INTERPRETATION (21 Mai 2024)

Clive Betts: Could I ask for a bit of advice, Ms Nokes? I have a selection list that says that new clause 4, which I also tabled, should be debated with amendment 27, but another selection list says that it should be debated under clause 56. There seems to be some discrepancy. It would be helpful if you could provide an explanation.

Pwyllgor Mesur Cyhoeddus: Football Governance Bill: Clause 55 - PART 6: OVERVIEW AND INTERPRETATION (21 Mai 2024)

Clive Betts: Thank you for that clarification—I am sorry for mixing myself up. Let us get down to the issue of parachute payments, which almost everyone spoke about on Second Reading, and which the Minister seems to believe should be treated as a given in their current form, with no change. I think he has the support of the Premier League—or some clubs in the Premier League, because it is by no means...

Pwyllgor Mesur Cyhoeddus: Football Governance Bill: Clause 55 - PART 6: OVERVIEW AND INTERPRETATION (21 Mai 2024)

Clive Betts: I am talking about parachute payments that currently exist, which is what the Bill refers to—I do not think it refers to parachute payments that might exist in the future in some other arrangement.

Pwyllgor Mesur Cyhoeddus: Football Governance Bill: Clause 55 - PART 6: OVERVIEW AND INTERPRETATION (21 Mai 2024)

Clive Betts: The point I was going to go on to make was that I am not suggesting that parachute payments should never be allowed under any income redistribution. That is not the case. My amendment does not say, “No parachute payments”. It says that parachute payments can be considered as part of the overall distribution of finances within the game. The Bill as drafted states that parachute payments...

Pwyllgor Mesur Cyhoeddus: Football Governance Bill: Clause 55 - PART 6: OVERVIEW AND INTERPRETATION (21 Mai 2024)

Clive Betts: Absolutely. I just made the point about the enormous difference in budgets that Championship clubs now experience because of that. Of course, when we look at this season of the Championship, three out of the top four clubs have received parachute payments. Yes, other clubs, such as Ipswich, have done remarkably well without them, but clubs are always trying to compete with those clubs...

Pwyllgor Mesur Cyhoeddus: Football Governance Bill: Clause 55 - PART 6: OVERVIEW AND INTERPRETATION (21 Mai 2024)

Clive Betts: Is it not one of the great strengths of the English pyramid that there is, or should be, the ability for clubs to move around? If there are massive differences in the financial capabilities of the clubs that come down from the Premier League with a view to going back up again very quickly and the other Championship clubs, that effectively removes the element of competition and removes the...

Pwyllgor Mesur Cyhoeddus: Football Governance Bill: Clause 55 - PART 6: OVERVIEW AND INTERPRETATION (21 Mai 2024)

Clive Betts: Is the hon. Gentleman saying that the Premier League’s objective in having parachute payments protected in this way is to ensure they that continue, while the issue of the pyramid and more competition lower down is met by even more money from the Premier League to the EFL, irrespective of parachute payments? It seems to me that that is not its position; it actually wants to hang on to as...

Pwyllgor Mesur Cyhoeddus: Football Governance Bill: Clause 52 - Duty to pay a levy (21 Mai 2024)

Clive Betts: I beg to move amendment 30, in clause 52, page 42, line 28, at end insert— “(9A) The starting point for calculation of the levy payment under subsection (9) applicable to a particular club shall be a percentage of its annual revenue.”

Pwyllgor Mesur Cyhoeddus: Football Governance Bill: Clause 52 - Duty to pay a levy (21 Mai 2024)

Clive Betts: This is a fairly simple clarifying amendment. As we have heard, smaller clubs feel that regulation must be proportionate and that there should be more requirements on very wealthy clubs, because they have the staff and resources to deal with that. Smaller clubs may find the whole issue of regulation very challenging, so amendment 30 simply says that the levy they will have to pay should be a...

Pwyllgor Mesur Cyhoeddus: Football Governance Bill: Clause 52 - Duty to pay a levy (21 Mai 2024)

Clive Betts: I beg to ask leave to withdraw the amendment.

Pwyllgor Mesur Cyhoeddus: Football Governance Bill: Clause 47 (21 Mai 2024)

Clive Betts: I will reflect on what the Minister said. I will perhaps do so at a future date, but I will not move it at this stage.

Pwyllgor Mesur Cyhoeddus: Football Governance Bill: Clause 46 - Duty not to dispose etc of home ground without approval (21 Mai 2024)

Clive Betts: I rise to speak to amendment 29, which I tabled. We will move on to a debate on clause 49 shortly, to which it relates. It is interesting that fans will get a specific consultation, involvement and approval about changing the crests, shirt colours and names, as those are decisions that can be reversed quite easily. We know about the problems at Cardiff with shirt colours and at Hull with the...

Pwyllgor Mesur Cyhoeddus: Football Governance Bill: Clause 46 - Duty not to dispose etc of home ground without approval (21 Mai 2024)

Clive Betts: The Minister is therefore saying that a club makes a proposal, consults with the fans and comes to a view, then the regulator must accept the view that the club has come to. Why does the regulator not have a responsibility to ensure that the fans are comfortable with any proposal in the way that amendment 29 suggests? Why is it simply left to a club, which may have a vested interest, to...

Pwyllgor Mesur Cyhoeddus: Football Governance Bill: Clause 46 - Duty not to dispose etc of home ground without approval (21 Mai 2024)

Clive Betts: Where does it say precisely that the club must consult on that? It must consult about shirt colours, names and crests, so where does it specifically say that about the ground?

Pwyllgor Mesur Cyhoeddus: Football Governance Bill: Clause 46 - Duty not to dispose etc of home ground without approval (21 Mai 2024)

Clive Betts: Which bit of the clause covers that? Can we have the word, please?

Pwyllgor Mesur Cyhoeddus: Football Governance Bill: Clause 46 - Duty not to dispose etc of home ground without approval (21 Mai 2024)

Clive Betts: That is the IFR’s responsibility, but nowhere in the Bill does it say that fans have to be consulted. Neither the IFR nor the club has to consult on the matter, does it?


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