Clause 47 - Indecent photographs of persons aged 16 or 17

Part of Sexual Offences Bill [Lords] – in a Public Bill Committee am 9:10 pm ar 18 Medi 2003.

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Photo of Sandra Gidley Sandra Gidley Democratiaid Rhyddfrydol, Romsey 9:10, 18 Medi 2003

The hon. Gentleman raises a good point. There are also well publicised situations involving people who are perhaps not within relationships. If people become famous, photographs can be used retrospectively. The hon. Gentleman makes an excellent point about providing a loophole for pictures of young children. Not all 16-year-olds look 16, 17 or 18. There are some very young-looking 16-year-olds whose photographs could be used titillate

those who have a taste for such things. I am not sure that that is something that we should encourage. However, at this stage, I beg to ask leave to withdraw the amendment.

Amendment, by leave, withdrawn.

Amendment made: No. 91, in

clause 47, page 24, leave out lines 8 to 27 and insert—

'''1A Marriage and other relationships

(1) This section applies where, in proceedings for an offence under section 1(1)(a) of taking or making an indecent photograph of a child, or for an offence under section 1(1)(b) or (c) relating to an indecent photograph of a child, the defendant proves—

(a) that at the time of the offence charged, he was married to the child, or

(b) that the photograph was of the child aged 16 or over, and that at the time of the offence charged, the child and he lived together as partners in an enduring family relationship.

(2) Subsections (5) and (6) also apply where, in proceedings for an offence under section 1(1)(b) or (c) relating to an indecent photograph of a child, the defendant proves—

(a) that at the time when he obtained the photograph, he was married to the child, or

(b) that the photograph was of the child aged 16 or over, and that at the time when he obtained it the child and he lived together as partners in an enduring family relationship.

(3) This section applies whether the photograph showed the child alone or with the defendant, but not if it showed any other person.

(4) In the case of an offence under section 1(1)(a), if sufficient evidence is adduced to raise an issue as to whether the child consented to the photograph being taken or made, or as to whether the defendant reasonably believed that the child so consented, the defendant is not guilty of the offence unless it is proved that the child did not so consent and that the defendant did not reasonably believe that the child so consented.

(5) In the case of an offence under section 1(1)(b), the defendant is not guilty of the offence unless it is proved that the showing or distributing was to a person other than the child.

(6) In the case of an offence under section 1(1)(c), if sufficient evidence is adduced to raise an issue both—

(a) as to whether the child consented to the photograph being in the defendant's possession, or as to whether the defendant reasonably believed that the child so consented, and

(b) as to whether the defendant had the photograph in his possession with a view to its being distributed or shown to anyone other than the child,

the defendant is not guilty of the offence unless it is proved either that the child did not so consent and that the defendant did not reasonably believe that the child so consented, or that the defendant had the photograph in his possession with a view to its being distributed or shown to a person other than the child.''

( ) After section 160 of the Criminal Justice Act 1988 (c.33) (possession of indecent photograph of child) insert—

''160A Marriage and other relationships

(1) This section applies where, in proceedings for an offence under section 160 relating to an indecent photograph of a child, the defendant proves—

(a) that at the time of the offence charged, he was married to the child, or

(b) that the photograph was of the child aged 16 or over, and that at the time of the offence charged, the child and he lived together as partners in an enduring family relationship.

(2) This section also applies where, in proceedings for an offence under section 160 relating to an indecent photograph of a child, the defendant proves—

(a) that at the time when he obtained the photograph, he was married to the child, or

(b) that the photograph was of the child aged 16 or over, and that at the time when he obtained it the child and he lived together as partners in an enduring family relationship.

(3) This section applies whether the photograph showed the child alone or with the defendant, but not if it showed any other person.

(4) If sufficient evidence is adduced to raise an issue as to whether the child consented to the photograph being in the defendant's possession, or as to whether the defendant reasonably believed that the child so consented, the defendant is not guilty of the offence unless it is proved that the child did not so consent and that the defendant did not reasonably believe that the child so consented.'''.

—[Beverley Hughes.]