Health (Wales) Bill – in a Public Bill Committee am 9:30 am ar 12 Rhagfyr 2002.
Bill Wiggin
Ceidwadwyr, Leominster
I hope that the Minister has a copy of the National Health Service Act 1977 to hand: if not, it retails at £13. With my anorak firmly on, I apologise to the Committee, but admit that I checked the provisions last night. In chapter 49 of the 1977 Act I found the reference to
''section 18(1A), the ''or'' at the end of paragraph (a) and paragraph (c)''.
Off I galloped, but found no section 18(1A)(c). It is not there, which, as I am sure you can imagine, Mr. Griffiths, created a crisis for me. There I was checking the wording: I found section 18(1A)(a) and (b), but found no more. Can the Minister explain what has happened to the missing bit? [Interruption.] I have some more, so perhaps I should carry on. I galloped on to section 98(2A) and found that that was not there either. It is either my fault for looking it up wrongly, or copious notes are winging their way to the Minister. One can only hope. If I cannot find the specified provisions in the 1977Act, it is difficult to approve the schedule.
Don Touhig
Parliamentary Under-Secretary, Welsh Office, The Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State for Wales
Section 10(1A) was added by the 2001 Act. The hon. Gentleman might have an old copy.
Bill Wiggin
Ceidwadwyr, Leominster
It is section 18, not section 10. I may well have an old copy, but it was given to me by the Vote Office yesterday. Will the Minister look up section 98(2A)? Perhaps that is also missing for the same reasons. If this is an out-of-date copy, perhaps he could write to me about this. Could he also look at the National Health Service Reform and Health Care Professions Act 2002? That is a bargain at £10.50. The schedule refers to section 3(5)(a) and (c), which I naturally rushed to. This time, to my delight, they did exist; but the phrase
''In section 18 (directions and regulations under preceding provisions), in subsection (1A)''
refers to my old friend the National Health Services Act 1977. Once again there were bits missing. Subsection (c) refers to a bit of the 1977 Act that does not seem to appear. I suspect that either my copy is out of date, or it is just a minor glitch. I should be grateful if the Minister could write to me about that.
Mr Win Griffiths
Llafur, Pen-y-bont ar Ogwr
Order. It may be helpful if I point out that there has been subsequent legislation and amendments have been made. We need to get the totally up-to-date version, which is found in Halsbury.
I am sure that the Minister will have something else to add.
Don Touhig
Parliamentary Under-Secretary, Welsh Office, The Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State for Wales
I thank the hon. Member for Leominster for his helpful interventions. I shall write to him and all members of the Committee answering his points. Schedule 4 contains the required consequential repeals and I hope that the Committee will therefore endorse it.
Question put and agreed to.
Schedule 4 agreed to.
Clause 8 ordered to stand part of the Bill.
Clause 9 ordered to stand part of the Bill.
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