Civil Service: National Pay Bargaining Units

Cabinet Office – in the House of Commons am ar 25 Gorffennaf 2024.

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Photo of Mary Glindon Mary Glindon Llafur, Newcastle upon Tyne East and Wallsend

Whether he plans to take steps to consolidate the number of national pay bargaining units in the civil service.

Photo of Jeremy Corbyn Jeremy Corbyn Annibynnol, Islington North

Whether he plans to take steps to consolidate the number of national pay bargaining units in the civil service.

Photo of Pat McFadden Pat McFadden Chancellor of the Duchy of Lancaster

Yesterday, I met the civil service unions together with the new Parliamentary Secretary, Cabinet Office, my hon. Friend Georgia Gould. We had a very positive discussion covering a whole range of issues. I made it clear that the days of Government Ministers waging culture wars against civil servants are over. Instead, we want a civil service that is motivated, valued and helps the Government to deliver their priorities. On the specific issue of pay, the Government will have more to say on civil service pay before the summer recess.

Photo of Mary Glindon Mary Glindon Llafur, Newcastle upon Tyne East and Wallsend

In 14 years, the Tory Government did nothing to tackle the ludicrous situation whereby there are over 200 pay bargaining units for civil servants across all Government Departments and agencies, a highly time-consuming and inefficient process that generates unfair pay disparities between people doing near-identical jobs in different Government offices. Will the Minister take this opportunity to look again at whether pay bargaining can be consolidated across the civil service, and will he agree to meet the Public and Commercial Services Union to discuss the advantages of such reforms?

Photo of Pat McFadden Pat McFadden Chancellor of the Duchy of Lancaster

We do value civil servants, and of course we want all public servants to be properly and fairly rewarded. As with any public expenditure, what is spent on pay has to be balanced against other priorities and fair to taxpayers as a whole. On meeting the PCS, yesterday, I met the general secretary of the PCS, as well as other civil service unions. I hope for a fruitful dialogue with them. Departments do have flexibility on pay. They can direct pay towards the needs of their own workforces. As I have said, we will have more to say about civil service pay before the summer recess.

Photo of Jeremy Corbyn Jeremy Corbyn Annibynnol, Islington North

I thank the Minister for the reply he has just given. Will he assure the House that he is going to make progress towards a return to full sectoral bargaining? He must be aware that many thousands of civil servants are not covered by a pay review body or any other bargaining mechanism. Will he take steps to ensure that all civil servants are bought within the purview of a pay review body bargaining unit as part of a return to sectoral bargaining?

Photo of Pat McFadden Pat McFadden Chancellor of the Duchy of Lancaster

I thank the right hon. Member for his question. I hope to have a good and fruitful dialogue with the civil service unions about pay and many other issues. It is important that we have public servants who feel valued and motivated, and who do their part on delivering the Government’s objectives. On the specific issue of pay that he has raised, as I said to my hon. Friend Mary Glindon, the Government will have more to say on civil service pay before the summer recess.