Religious Organisations (Charitable Status)

Oral Answers to Questions — Cabinet Office – in the House of Commons am 11:30 am ar 11 Chwefror 2015.

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Photo of Edward Leigh Edward Leigh Chair, Public Accounts Commission, Chair, Public Accounts Commission 11:30, 11 Chwefror 2015

What recent representations he has received on religious organisations and charitable status.

Photo of Rob Wilson Rob Wilson The Parliamentary Secretary, Cabinet Office

I have not received any representations recently from religious organisations on charitable status. More than 25,000 registered charities involve the promotion of religion. They play a hugely important role in our communities and support those in need. I pay tribute to their excellent work. They are often first in and last out of some of our toughest communities.

Photo of Edward Leigh Edward Leigh Chair, Public Accounts Commission, Chair, Public Accounts Commission

The Minister may recall the campaign that some of us waged on behalf of the Plymouth Brethren to retain its charitable status. It must have been for love, because it refused to vote on principle. We eventually won that campaign, but there is a worry on the part of many religious groups that increasingly so-called British values will trump faith values. Can the Minister assure faith groups that in the context of toleration for others they will be allowed to have space to teach their own faith?

Photo of Rob Wilson Rob Wilson The Parliamentary Secretary, Cabinet Office

My hon. Friend will know that the Charity Commission is independent of the Government and the Cabinet Office. It already respects the diversity of religious views, registering hundreds of new religious charities from a range of faiths every year, but it is fair to say that the Charity Commission did need to improve, as the National Audit Office said. It is now well on its way to doing that, but he can be assured that the Charity Commission has learnt its lessons from the case he raises.

Photo of Paul Flynn Paul Flynn Llafur, Gorllewin Casnewydd

This is not about the Plymouth Brethren, but about a tiny sect of the Plymouth Brethren known as the Hales Exclusive Brethren. It is practising cruelty, I believe, in many ways against its own people. This is a dangerous sect. Rightly, the Charity Commission withdrew its status. The sect then had a campaign, which spent £2 million, to convince the

Charity Commission that it had changed, and it changed its deeds. It is quite clear that this is what it calls “spoiling the Egyptians”, a process to deceive the Charity Commission. It is not abiding by its new status.

Photo of Rob Wilson Rob Wilson The Parliamentary Secretary, Cabinet Office

I thank the hon. Gentleman for that question, but the Charity Commission looked at this matter in detail and that religious group retained its status. Public benefit has always been a defining element of charitable status. That is what is unique about charities and what distinguishes them from private enterprises. We have no plans to change that.

Photo of Gerald Howarth Gerald Howarth Ceidwadwyr, Aldershot

Does my hon. Friend accept that British values have been forged in large measure by this nation’s Christian heritage? It is very important that our Christian heritage should be put at the forefront of our concerns. Will he make sure that the Charity Commission understands that there is widespread concern that Christian values are being treated on a par with other faiths, and that Christian values must be pre-eminent? There is a particular threat in our schools, where Ofsted is not taking the right view.

Photo of Rob Wilson Rob Wilson The Parliamentary Secretary, Cabinet Office

I completely understand what my hon. Friend says, but I have been assured that the Charity Commission has learnt the lessons of the Brethren case. The commission is currently undergoing a major change programme to address the recommendations of the National Audit Office and become a more focused, robust and proactive regulator.

Photo of Gregory Campbell Gregory Campbell DUP, East Londonderry

The case exhibited a deal of interest among the media, but the Brethren people went out of their way to ensure they provide a public good, in particular in schooling in my part of Northern Ireland and across the United Kingdom. Will the Minister maintain the stance that that public good far outweighs any perceived evil on the other side?

Photo of Rob Wilson Rob Wilson The Parliamentary Secretary, Cabinet Office

As I said, the key issue for the Brethren was to prove public benefit in what they were doing. That is the defining element of charity status and the Charity Commission accepted that.