Birmingham Pub Bombings

Oral Answers to Questions — Attorney-General – in the House of Commons am 12:00 am ar 22 Ebrill 1991.

Danfonwch hysbysiad imi am ddadleuon fel hyn

Photo of John McFall John McFall , Dumbarton 12:00, 22 Ebrill 1991

To ask the Attorney-General when he last discussed the Birmingham pub bombings case with the Director of Public Prosecutions.

Photo of Clare Short Clare Short , Birmingham, Ladywood

To ask the Attorney-General when he last discussed the Birmingham pub bombings case with the Director of Public Prosecutions.

Photo of Sir Patrick Mayhew Sir Patrick Mayhew , Tunbridge Wells

I frequently meet the Director to discuss departmental matters, and I last did so on 18 April, but I do not disclose the particular matters discussed.

Photo of John McFall John McFall , Dumbarton

Will the Attorney-General confirm that a number of police officers who must have lied and fabricated evidence are still on duty? Are there any plans to suspend them, or may we expect business as usual in the West Midlands police force?

Photo of Sir Patrick Mayhew Sir Patrick Mayhew , Tunbridge Wells

The hon. Gentleman will know that the Devon and Cornwall police force is carrying out investigations of a criminal nature into certain police officers who were named in the judgment of the Court of Appeal. More than that it is not proper for me to say at present.

Photo of Clare Short Clare Short , Birmingham, Ladywood

The Attorney-General will recall that the trial judge in the case said that if what the defendants were saying was true it would amount to the biggest conspiracy in the annals of criminal history. Can he assure us that he is dealing with the matter that seriously and that he will secure the prosecutions of those who organised it rather than a couple of low-level fall guys?

Photo of Sir Patrick Mayhew Sir Patrick Mayhew , Tunbridge Wells

I do not think that the hon. Lady would expect the Director of Public Prosecutions to do more than apply the code for Crown prosecutors in this instance exactly as it is applied in other instances—that is, to look to see whether, at the conclusion of the police investigation, which is far advanced, there is enough evidence to give rise to the realistic prospect of a conviction and the public interest requires a prosecution. That is the test, and he will apply it.

Photo of Mr Geoffrey Dickens Mr Geoffrey Dickens , Littleborough and Saddleworth

Will my right hon. and learned Friend please advise the House whether the Birmingham Six were released because they could not possibly have carried out the pub bombings, because there was reasonable doubt, or because the evidence on which they were prosecuted was unsafe? That is a matter of public interest.

Photo of Sir Patrick Mayhew Sir Patrick Mayhew , Tunbridge Wells

As the Court of Appeal made clear in the concluding words of its judgment, it held that the convictions were unsafe and unsatisfactory on each of two specific grounds. Accordingly, the appeals were allowed. The consequence is that each of the Birmingham Six is entitled to the same presumption of innocence as anybody else in the country.

Photo of Peter Bottomley Peter Bottomley , Eltham

Does my right hon. and learned Friend agree that the basic problem is that the IRA, like the Disloyalists, go around killing people when the answer in Northern Ireland is for people to settle their differences by discussion and disagreement rather than by murder?

Photo of Sir Patrick Mayhew Sir Patrick Mayhew , Tunbridge Wells

Of course I agree with my hon. Friend, as the whole House must agree, that that is a consummation devoutly to be wished. As soon as military and paramilitary organisations adopt that rule, we shall all be greatly satisfied and many innocent people will be relieved of the fear of death, let alone of wrongful conviction, from which they have suffered for so many years now.