Clause 1. — (Treatment of compulsory National Service for pension purposes.)

Part of Orders of the Day — Superannuation (Miscellaneous Provisions) Bill – in the House of Commons am 12:00 am ar 23 Ebrill 1948.

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Photo of Mr William Hall Mr William Hall , Colne Valley 12:00, 23 Ebrill 1948

Oh, yes. We have got heaps of time. This, will not begin to take effect for about 40 years. The people who will suffer because they spent a year in the Armed Forces now or in the years immediately ahead will not begin to feel it—if they ever do—in the way suggested by my two hon. Friends for another 30 or 40 years. It is quite possible that a great deal may have happened between now and then.

I think I have dealt with most of the points that have been raised, and answered the charge that my right hon. Friend the Minister of Education has in some way broken a promise. If my two hon. Friends will re-read the Debates which took place in this House on the Second Reading and upstairs when we dealt with the Committee stage, they will see that my right hon. Friend is much too old a bird to have made a promise of that sort. He certainly indicated that he would look into this matter and see what he could do to meet the point of view put forward. I can say on his behalf—because I happen to know; I was in on these discussions—that he tried very hard to implement the promise that he made, namely that he would see what could be done and that, if something were possible, he would do it. He certainly got that point of view ventilated in the proper quarters, and he did his best to see whether some provision to meet it could be inserted in the Bill.

I hope my two hon. Friends will realise that it is impossible, without creating anomalies, to insert the provision which they suggest. However, I hope that another superannuation Measure will be brought forward next Session or the Session after, and we will bear this matter in mind. If it is possible to do something for teachers and others in the Civil Service and local government service who are in a like position, we shall do our best to do it. That being so, I hope my hon. Friend will be willing to withdraw his Amendment.