Shorthand-Typists.

Oral Answers to Questions — Government Departments. – in the House of Commons am ar 6 Chwefror 1939.

Danfonwch hysbysiad imi am ddadleuon fel hyn

Photo of Mr John Banfield Mr John Banfield , Wednesbury

asked the Financial Secretary to the Treasury the number of established shorthand-typists employed in Government Departments as on 1st April, 1938, and how many of them fell within each of the following age groups: under 21 years, 21 to 25 years, 26 to 30 years, 31 to 35 years, 36 to 40 years, 41 to 45 years, 46 to 50 years, and over 50 years?

Photo of Captain Euan Wallace Captain Euan Wallace , Hornsey

4,482 established shorthand-typists were employed in Government Departments on 1st April, 1938. With the hon. Member's permission I will circulate in the OFFICIAL REPORT a tabular statement giving their Division into age groups as requested.

Photo of Mr William Thorne Mr William Thorne , West Ham Plaistow

Will that information convey to hon. Members and the general public the amount of pay these shorthand-typists are receiving?

Photo of Captain Euan Wallace Captain Euan Wallace , Hornsey

No, Sir, that was not asked for.

Photo of Mr William Thorne Mr William Thorne , West Ham Plaistow

If I put down a question, I dare say I shall got an answer.

Following is the statement:

Established shorthand-typists employed in Government Departments at 1st April, 1938.

Age.Number.
Under 21 years145
21 to 25 years1,403
26 to 30 years1,199
31 to 35 years724
36 to 40 years544
41 to 45 years248
46 to 50 years148
Over 50 years71
Total4,482

division

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