Orders of the Day — PUBLIC HEALTH (SMOKE ABATEMENT) BILL [Lords]. – in the House of Commons am ar 6 Rhagfyr 1926.
Lieut.-Commander ASTOURY:
I beg to move, in page 7, line 21, to leave out the word "January," and to insert instead thereof the word "July."
There is no doubt that this Bill will cause a great deal of inconvenience to many manufacturers in the country, and especially to small manufacturers who have not the capital to put their works into an efficient state to meet the requirements of the Measure at such short notice. I hope, therefore, the right hon. Gentleman will allow six months before bringing the Bill into operation so as to give them ample time to adjust their works to the altered conditions.
Mr. WILLIAMS:
I beg to second the Amendment.
While the Bill is much better then when it passed Second Reading it will involve manufacturers in certain difficulties, and I think they should have at least six months to prepare themselves for the new conditions which are to come into operation.
Mr. CHAMBERLAIN:
I had hoped, origiNally, that the Bill would become law before the House rose, for the Summer Recess, but as it has been delayed until a short time before it was origiNally intended to come into operation, and in view of the events of the past six months, I think it is not unreasonable to postpone its operation for six months.
Mr. GREENWOOD:
Does that mean that the right hon. Gentleman is going to support 1928 as against 1927, which is proposed in the next Amendment.
Mr. GREENWOOD:
That is in the minds of the movers of this Amendment.
Mr John Whitley
, Halifax
The first Amendment is an alternative to the second. It is not an additional one. I do not propose to call the second Amendment.
| Division No. 542]. | AYES. | [12.0 p.m. |
| Adamson, Rt. Hon. W. (Fife, West) | Hall, F. (York, W.R., Normanton) | Potts, John S. |
| Ammon, Charles George | Hall, G. H. (Merthyr Tydvil) | Riley, Ben |
| Barr, J. | Hardie, George D. | Scurr, John |
| Benn, Captain Wedgwood (Leith) | Hayes, John Henry | Slesser, Sir Henry H. |
| Bondfield, Margaret | Henderson, T. (Glasgow) | Smith, Ben (Bermondsey, Rotherhithe) |
| Brown, James (Ayr and Bute) | Hudson, J. H. (Huddersfield) | Stephen, Campbell |
| Buchanan, G. | John, William (Rhondda, West) | Taylor, R. A. |
| Charleton, H. C. | Jones, T. I. Mardy (Pontypridd) | Townend, A. E. |
| Dalton, Hugh | Kelly, W. T. | Trevelyan, Rt. Hon. C. P. |
| Davies, Evan (Ebbw Vale) | Lindley, F. W. | Watson, W. M. (Dunfermline) |
| Day, Colonel Harry | Lunn, William | Welsh, J. C. |
| Duncan, C. | Maclean, Neil (Glasgow, Govan) | Williams, T. (York, Don Valley) |
| Gardner, J. P. | March, S. | |
| Graham, D. M. (Lanark, Hamilton) | Maxton, James | TELLERS FOR THE AYES.— |
| Greenwood, A. (Nelson and Colne) | Oliver, George Harold | Mr. Allen Parkinson and Mr. Charles Edwards. |
| Grenfell, D. R. (Glamorgan) | Paling, W. | |
| NOES. | ||
| Acland-Troyte, Lieut.-Colonel | Forrest, W. | Mac Robert, Alexander M. |
| Albery, Irving James | Foster, Sir Harry S. | Makins, Brigadier-General E. |
| Amery, Rt. Hon. Leopold C. M. S. | Foxcroft, Captain C. T. | Manningham-Buller, Sir, Mervyn |
| Astbury, Lieut.-Commander F. W. | Frece, Sir Walter de | Mitchell, S. (Lanark, Lanark) |
| Baldwin, Rt. Hon. Stanley | Fremantle, Lt.-Col. Francis E. | Moore, Lieut.-Colonel T. C. R. (Ayr) |
| Balfour, George (Hampstead) | Galbraith, J. F. W. | Moore-Brabazon, Lieut.-Col. J. T. C. |
| Barclay-Harvey, C. M. | Ganzoni, Sir John | Nail, Colonel Sir Joseph |
| Barnett, Major Sir Richard | Gilmour, Lt.-Col. Rt. Hon. Sir John | Newman, Sir R. H. S. D. L. (Exeter) |
| Beamish, Captain T. P. H. | Goff, Sir Park | Nuttall, Ellis |
| Bethel, A. | Grant, Sir J. A. | Oakley, T. |
| Blundell, F. N. | Greene, W. P. Crawford | O'Connor, T. J. (Bedford, Luton) |
| Brass, Captain W. | Grotrian, H. Brent | Owen, Major G. |
| Briggs, J. Harold | Gunston, Captain D. W. | Pennefather, Sir John |
| Briscoe, Richard George | Hacking, Captain Douglas H. | Penny, Frederick George |
| Brocklebank, C. E. R. | Hall, Capt. W. D'A. (Brecon & Rad.) | Percy, Lord Eustace (Hastings) |
| Broun-Lindsay, Major H. | Hammersley, S. S. | Perkins, Colonel E. K. |
| Bullock, Captain M. | Hanbury, C. | Peto, G. (Somerset, Frome) |
| Burman, J. B. | Harrison, G. J. C. | Pownall, Lieut.-Colonel Sir Assheton |
| Carver, W. H. | Harvey, G. (Lambeth, Kennington) | Price, Major C. W. M. |
| Chamberlain, Rt. Hon. N. (Ladywood) | Hawke, John Anthony | Rainn, W. |
| Charteris, Brigadier-General J. | Headlam, Lieut.-Colonel C. M. | Ramsden, E. |
| Christie, J. A. | Henderson, Capt. R. R. (Oxf'd, Henley) | Rawson, Sir Cooper |
| Cobb, Sir Cyril | Heneage, Lieut.-Colonel Arthur P. | Remer, J. R. |
| Cochrane, Commander Hon. A. D. | Hennessy, Major J. R. G. | Rhys, Hon. C. A. U. |
| Cope, Major William | Herbert, Dennis (Hertford, Watford) | Richardson. Sir P. W. (Sur'y, Ch'ts'y) |
| Courtauld, Major J. S. | Herbert, S. (York, N. R., Scar. & wh'by) | Roberts. E. H. G. (Flint) |
| Courthope, Colonel Sir G. L. | Hogg, Rt. Hon. Sir D. (St. Marylebone) | Roberts, Sir Samuel (Hereford) |
| Cowan, D. M. (Scottish Universities) | Holbrook, Sir Arthur Richard | Ropner, Major L. |
| Craig, Ernest (Chester, Crewe) | Hore-Belisha, Leslie | Ruggles-Brise, Major E. A. |
| Crawfurd, H. E. | Horlick, Lieut.-Colonel J. N. | Samuel, A. M. (Surrey. Farnham) |
| Crooke, J. Smedley (Deritend) | Hudson, Capt. A. U. M. (Hackney, N.) | Samuel, Samuel (W'dsworth, Putney) |
| Cunliffe, Sir Herbert | Huntingfield, Lord | Sandeman, A. Stewart |
| Curzorn, Captain Viscount | Hutchison, Sir Robert (Montrose) | Sanderson, Sir Frank |
| Davidson, J. (Hertf'd, Hernel Hempst'd) | Inskip, Sir Thomas Walker H. | Sassoon, Sir Philip Albert Gustave D. |
| Davies, Maj. Geo. F. (Somerset, Yeovil) | Jacob, A. E. | Savery, S. S. |
| Dean, Arthur Wellesley | Jones, Henry Haydn (Merioneth) | Shaw, R. G. (Yorks, W.R., Sowerby) |
| Dixey, A. C. | Kennedy, A. R. (Preston) | Shaw, Capt. Walter (Wilts, Westb'y) |
| Duckworth, John | Kidd, J. (Linlithgow) | Shepperson, E. W. |
| Edmondson, Major A. J. | King, Captain Henry Douglas | Skelton, A. N. |
| Elliot, Major Walter E. | Little, Dr. E. Graham | Slaney, Major P. Kenyon |
| Evans, Captain A. (Cardiff, South) | Looker, Herbert William | Smith, R. W. (Aberd'n & Kinc'dine, C.) |
| Everard, W. Lindsay | Lucas-Tooth, Sir Hugh Vere | Smithers, Waldron |
| Fairfax, Captain J. G. | Luce, Major-Gen. Sir Richard Harman | Sprot, Sir Alexander |
| Fanshawe, Commander G. D. | MacAndrew, Major Charles Glen | Stanley, Col. Hon G. F.(Will'sden, E.) |
| Fenby, T. D. | Macdonald, Capt. P. D. (I. of W.) | Stanley, Lord (Fylde) |
| Fermoy, Lord | McLean, Major A. | Stanley, Hon. O. F. G. (Westm'eland) |
| Fielden, E. B. | Macmillan, Captain H. | Story-Deans, R. |
| Forestier-Walker, Sir L. | McNeill, Rt. Hon. Ronald John | Streatfield, Captain S. R. |
| Stuart. Hon. J. (Moray and Nairn) | Waterhouse, Captain Charles | Wise, Sir Fredric |
| Templeton, W. P. | Watson, sir F. (Pudsey and Otley) | Womersley, W. J. |
| Thorn, Lt.-Col. J. G. (Dumbarton) | Watts, Dr. T. | Wood, E. (Chest'r, Stalyb'ge & Hyde) |
| Thomas, Sir Robert John (Anglesey) | Wells, S. R. | Wood, Sir H. K. (Woolwich, West) |
| Thomson, F. C. (Aberdeen. S.) | Wheler, Major Sir Granville C. H. | Woodcock, Colonel H. C. |
| Titchfield, Major the Marquess of | Wiggins, William Martin | Yerburgh, Major Robert D. T. |
| Tryon, Rt. Hon. George Clement | Williams, Com. C- (Devon, Torquay) | |
| Wallace, Captain D. E. | Williams, Herbert G. (Reading) | TELLERS FOR THE NOES.— |
| Ward, Lt.-Col. A. L. (Kingston-on-Hull) | Windsor-Clive, Lieut.-Colonel George | Captain Margesson and Captain Bowyer. |
| Warner, Brigadier-General W. W. | Winterton, Rt. Hon. Earl |
Bill read the Third time, and passed, with Amendments.
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