– in the House of Commons am ar 28 Gorffennaf 1925.
Mr Alexander Livingstone
, Ross and Cromarty
Is it intended to proceed with the Sheriff Courts and Legal Officers (Scotland) Bill before the Recess?
Mr John Gilmour
, Glasgow Pollok
No, Sir; I am introducing that Bill to-day, but I am afraid there is no hope of proceeding with it before the Recess.
Commander Hon. Joseph Kenworthy
, Kingston upon Hull Central
May we be informed what business it is proposed to take after Eleven o'clock if the Motion standing in the name of the Prime Minister be carried?
Sir Bolton Eyres-Monsell
, Evesham
We propose to take Orders Nos. 5, 6, and 7: The Second Reading of the Telegraph (Money) Bill, the Third Reading of the Diseases of Animals Bill, and the Report stage of the National Library of Scotland [Money] Resolution.
Commander Hon. Joseph Kenworthy
, Kingston upon Hull Central
Is it proposed to take all the Supply Votes which are down as well?
Motion made, and Question put,
That this day, notwithstanding anything in Standing Order No. 15, Business
other than Business of Supply may be taken before Eleven of the Clock, and that the Proceedings on Government Business other than the Business of Supply be exempted at this day's Sitting from the provisions of
| Division No. 323.] | AYES. | [3.39 p.m. |
| Acland-Troyte, Lieut.-Colonel | Fermoy, Lord | Manningham-Buller, Sir Mervyn |
| Ainsworth, Major Charles | Fielden, E. B. | Margesson, Capt. D. |
| Albery, Irving James | Fleming, D. P. | Marriott, Sir J. A. R. |
| Alexander, E. E. (Leyton) | Forestier-Walker, L. | Mason, Lieut.-Col. Glyn K. |
| Allen, J. Sandeman (L'pool, W. Derby) | Forrest, W. | Meyer, Sir Frank. |
| Applin, Colonel R. V. k. | Foxcroft, Captain C. T. | Mitchell, W. Foot (Saffron Walden) |
| Ashley, Lt.-Col. Rt. Hon. Wilfrid W. | Fraser, Captain Ian | Mitchell, Sir W. Lane (Streatham) |
| Astbury, Lieut.-Commander F. W. | Fremantle, Lt.-Col. Francis E. | Monsell, Eyres, Com. Rt. Hon. B. M. |
| Balfour, George (Hampstead) | Gadie, Lieut.-Col. Anthony | Moore, Lieut.-Colonel T. C. R. (Ayr) |
| Balniel, Lord | Gates, Percy | Moore-Brabazon, Lieut.-Col. J. T. C. |
| Barclay-Harvey, C. M. | Gault, Lieut.-Col. Andrew Hamilton | Morrison, H. (Wilts. Salisbury) |
| Barnett, Major Sir Richard | Gibbs, Col. Rt. Hon. George Abraham | Morrison-Bell, Sir Arthur Clive |
| Beamish, Captain T. P. H. | Gilmour, Lt.-Col. Rt. Hon. Sir John | Murchison, C. K. |
| Beckett, Sir Gervase (Leeds, N.) | Glyn, Major R. G. C. | Nail, Lieut.-Colonel Sir Joseph |
| Bellairs, Commander Carlyon W. | Goff, Sir Park | Nelson, Sir Frank |
| Benn, Sir A. S. (Plymouth, Drake) | Gower, Sir Robert | Newman, Sir R. H. S. D. L. (Exeter) |
| Bentinck, Lord Henry Cavendish- | Grace, John | Nicholson, O. (Westminster) |
| Bethell, A. | Grant, J. A. | Nield, Rt. Hon. Sir Herbert |
| Betterton, Henry B. | Greene, W. p. Crawford | Nuttall, Ellis |
| Blades, Sir George Rowland | Gretton, Colonel John | Oakley, T. |
| Boothby, R. J. G. | Grotrian, H. Brent | O'Neill, Major Rt. Hon. Hugh |
| Bourne, Captain Robert Croft | Guinness, Rt. Hon. Walter E. | Oman, Sir Charles William C. |
| Bowater, Sir T. Vansittart | Gunston, Captain D. W. | Perkins, Colonel E. K. |
| Boyd Carpenter, Major A. | Hacking, Captain Douglas H. | Peto, Basil E. (Devon, Barnstaple) |
| Briggs, J. Harold | Hall, Vice-Admiral Sir R. (Eastbourne) | Philipson, Mabel |
| Briscoe Richard George | Hammersley, S. S. | Pilcher, G. |
| Brocklebank, C. E. R. | Hanbury C. | Power, Sir John Cecil |
| Broun-Lindsay, Major H. | Hannon, Patrick Joseph Henry | Pownall, Lieut.-Colonel Assheton |
| Brown, Brig.-Gen. H. C. (Berks, Newb'y) | Harvey, G. (Lambeth, Kennington) | Preston, William |
| Buckingham, Sir H. | Harvey, Major S. E. (Devon, Totnes) | Radford, E. A. |
| Bullock, Captain M. | Haslam, Henry C. | Raine, W. |
| Burman, J. B. | Headlam, Lieut.-Colonel C. M. | Ramsden, E. |
| Burton, Colonel H. W. | Henderson, Capt. R. R. (Oxford, Henley) | Rawson, Alfred Cooper |
| Butler, Sir Geoffrey | Heneage, Lieut.-Colonel Arthur P. | Rees, Sir Beddoe |
| Cadogan, Major Hon. Edward | Hennessy, Major J. R. G. | Reid, Capt. A. S. C. (Warrington) |
| Campbell, E. T. | Herbert. S. (York, N. R., Scar. & Wh'by) | Rhys, Hon. C. A. U. |
| Cecil. Rt. Hon. Sir Evelyn (Aston) | Hilton, Cecil | Rice, Sir Frederick |
| Chadwick, Sir Robert Burton | Hogg, Rt. Hon. Sir D.(St. Marylebone) | Richardson, Sir P. W. (Sur'y, Ch'ts'y) |
| Charteris, Brigadier-General J. | Holbrook Sir Arthur Richard | Roberts, E. H. G. (Flint) |
| Christie, J. A. | Holt, Captain H. P. | Roberts, Samuel (Hereford, Hereford) |
| Churchill, Rt. Hon. Winston Spencer | Hope Capt, A. O. J. (Warw'k, Nun.) | Robinson, Sir T. (Lancs., Stretford) |
| Clayton, G. C. | Hope, Sir Harry (Forfar) | Ruggles-Brice, Major E. A. |
| Cobb, Sir Cyril | Hopkins, J. W. W. | Russell, Alexander West (Tynemouth) |
| Cochrane, Commander Hon. A. D. | Hopkinson, A. (Lancaster, Mossley) | Samuel, A. M. (Surrey, Farnham) |
| Cohen, Major J. Brunel | Howard, Capt. Hon. D. (Cumb., N.) | Sandeman, A. Stewart |
| Colfox, Major Wm. Phillips | Hudson, Capt. A. U. M. (Hackney, N.) | Sanders, Sir Robert A. |
| Conway, Sir W. Martin | Hudson, R. S. (Cumberl'and, Whiteh'n) | Shaw, Capt.- W. (Wilts, Westb'y) |
| Cooper, A. Duff | Hume, Sir G. H. | Sheffield, Sir Berkeley |
| Cope, Major William | Hurd, Percy A. | Simms, Dr. John M. (Co. Down) |
| Couper, J. B. | Hurst, Gerald B. | Sinclair, Col. T.(Queen's Univ., Belfast) |
| Craig, Ernest (Chester, Crewe) | Hutchison, G. A. Clark (Midl'n & P'bl's) | Skelton, A. N. |
| Craik, Rt. Hon. Sir Henry | Inskip, Sir Thomas Walker H. | Slaney, Major P. Kenyon |
| Crook, C. W. | Jackson, Sir H. (Wandsworth, Cen'l) | Smith, R. W. (Aberd'n & Kinc'dine, C.) |
| Crooke, J. Smedley (Deritend) | Jacob, A. E. | Smith-Carington, Neville W. |
| Crookshank, Col. C. de W. (Berwick) | James, Lieut.-Colonel Hon. Cuthbert | Smithers, Waldron |
| Crookshank, Cpt. H.(Lindsey, Gainsbro) | Jephcott, A. R. | Sprot, Sir Alexander |
| Curzon, Captain Viscount | Jones, Henry Haydn (Merioneth) | Stanley, Col. Hon. G. F. (Will'sden, E.) |
| Dalkeith, Earl of | Joynson-Hicks, Rt. Hon. Sir William | Stanley, Lord (Fylde) |
| Davidson, J. (Hertf'd, Hemel Hempst'd) | Kidd, J. (Linlithgow) | Stanley, Hon. O. F. G. (Westm'eland) |
| Davies, A. V. (Lancaster, Royton) | King, Captain Henry Douglas | Stott, Lieut.-Colonel W. H. |
| Davies, Sir Thomas (Cirencester) | Kinloch-Cooke, Sir Clement | Strickland, Sir Gerald |
| Dean, Arthur Wellesley | Knox, Sir Alfred | Stuart, Crichton-, Lord C. |
| Doyle, Sir N. Grattan | Lane-Fox, Lieut.-Col. George R. | Stuart, Hon. j. (Moray and Nairn) |
| Drewe, C. | Leigh, Sir John (Clapham) | Sueter, Rear-Admiral Murray Fraser |
| Edmondson, Major A. J. | Lister, Cunliffe-, Rt. Hon. Sir Philip | Sykes, Major-Gen. Sir Frederick H. |
| Edwards, John H. (Accrington) | Lloyd, Cyril E. (Dudley) | Thompson, Luke (Sunderland) |
| Elliot, Captain Walter E. | Loder, J. de V. | Thomson, Rt. Hon. Sir W. Mitchell- |
| Elveden, Viscount | Looker, Herbert William | Tinne, J. A. |
| England, Colonel A. | Lumley, L. R. | Tryon, Rt. Hon. George Clement |
| Erskine, James Malcolm Monteith | MacAndrew, Charles Glen | Vaughan-Morgan, Col. K. P. |
| Erskine, Lord (Somerset, Weston-s.-M.) | McDonnell, Colonel Hon. Angus | Waddington, R. |
| Everard, W. Lindsay | McLean, Major A. | Wallace, Captain D. E. |
| Fairfax, Captain J. G. | McNeill, Rt. Hon. Ronald John | Ward, Lt.-Col. A.L.(Kingston-on-Hull) |
| Falle, Sir Bertram G. | MacRobert, Alexander M. | Warner, Brigadier-General W. W. |
| Fanshawe, Commander G. D. | Malone, Major P. B. | Warrender, Sir Victor |
| Waterhouse, Captain Charles | Wilson, Sir C. H. (Leeds, Central) | Wood, E. (Chest'r, Stalyb'ge & Hyde) |
| Watson, Rt. Hon. W. (Carlisle) | Wilson, M. J. (York, N. R., Richm'd) | Woodcock, Colonel H. C. |
| Watts, Dr. T. | Wilson, R. R. (Stafford, Lichfield) | Worthington-Evans, Rt. Hon. Sir L. |
| Wells, S. R. | Windsor-Clive, Lieut.-Colonel George | Young, E. Hilton (Norwich) |
| Wheler, Major Sir Granville C. H. | Wise, Sir Fredric | |
| Williams, Com. C. (Devon, Torquay) | Womersley, W. J. | TELLERS FOR THE AYES.— |
| Williams, C. P. (Denbigh, Wrexham) | Wood, B. C. (Somerset, Bridgwater) | Major Sir Harry Barnston and Mr. |
| Williams, Herbert G. (Reading) | Wood, Rt. Hon. E. (York, W. R., Ripon) | F. C. Thomson. |
| NOES. | ||
| Adamson, W. M. (Staff., Cannock) | Harney, E. A. | Roberts, Rt. Hon. F. O.(W. Bromwich) |
| Alexander, A. V. (Sheffield, Hillsbro') | Hayday, Arthur | Robertson, J. (Lanark, Bothwell) |
| Attlee, Clement Richard | Hayes, John Henry | Rose, Frank H. |
| Baker, J. (Wolverhampton, Bilston) | Henderson, Right Hon. A. (Burnley) | Salter, Dr. Alfred |
| Baker, Walter | Henderson, T. (Glasgow) | Sexton, James |
| Barker, G. (Monmouth, Abertillery) | Hirst, G. H. | Shiels, Dr. Drummond |
| Barnes, A. | Hirst, W. (Bradford, South) | Smith, Ben (Bermondsey, Rotherhithe) |
| Barr, J. | Hutchison, Sir Robert (Montrose) | Smith, Rennie (Penistone) |
| Batey, Joseph | Jenkins, W. (Glamorgan, Neath) | Snell, Harry |
| Beckett, John (Gateshead) | John, William (Rhondda, West) | Stephen, Campbell |
| Benn, Captain Wedgwood (Leith) | Johnston, Thomas (Dundee) | Sutton, J. E. |
| Broad, F. A. | Jones, Morgan (Caerphilly) | Thorne, W. (West Ham, Plaistow) |
| Brown, James (Ayr and Bute) | Jones, T. I. Mardy (Pontypridd) | Thurtle, E. |
| Cluse, W. S. | Kelly, W. T. | Tinker, John Joseph |
| Clynes, Rt. Hon. John R | Kennedy, T. | Trevelyan, Rt. Hon. C. P. |
| Collins, Sir Godfrey (Greenock) | Kenworthy, Lt.-Com. Hon. Joseph M. | Varley, Frank B. |
| Compton, Joseph | Kenyon, Barnet | Viant, S. P. |
| Connolly, M. | Lansbury, George | Wallhead, Richard C. |
| Davies, Evan (Ebbw Vale) | Lawson, John James | Walsh, Rt. Hon. Stephen |
| Davies, Rhys John (Westhoughton) | Livingstone, A. M. | Warne, G. H. |
| Day, Colonel Harry | Lowth, T. | Watson, W. M. (Dunfermilne) |
| Dennison, R. | Lunn, William | Watts-Morgan, Lt.-Col. D. (Rhondda) |
| Dunnico, H. | MacDonald, Rt. Hon. J. R. (Aberavon) | Webb, Rt. Hon. Sidney |
| Fisher, Rt. Hon. Herbert A. L | Mackinder, W. | Welsh, J. C. |
| Gibbins, Joseph | March, S. | Whiteley, W. |
| Gillett, George M. | Maxton, James | Wilkinson, Ellen C. |
| Gosling, Harry | Morris, R. H. | Williams, David (Swansea, E.) |
| Greenall, T. | Morrison, R. C. (Tottenham, N.) | Williams, Dr. J. H. (Llanelly) |
| Greenwood, A. (Nelson and Colne) | Naylor, T. E. | Wilson, R. J. (Jarrow) |
| Grenfell, D. R. (Glamorgan) | Owen, Major G. | Windsor, Walter |
| Griffiths, T. (Monmouth, Pontypool) | Paling, W. | Wright, W. |
| Groves, T. | Potts, John S. | |
| Hall, F. (York, W. R., Normanton) | Richardson, R. (Houghton-le-Spring) | TELLERS FOR THE NOES.— |
| Hall, G. H. (Merthyr Tydvil) | Riley, Ben | Mr. Allen Parkinson and Mr. |
| Hardie, George D. | Ritson, J. | Charles Edwards. |
Question, "That this House doth agree with the Committee in the said Resolution," put, and agreed to.
The Second Reading is the most important stage for a Bill. It is when the main purpose of a Bill is discussed and voted on. If the Bill passes it moves on to the Committee Stage. Further information can be obtained from factsheet L1 on the UK Parliament website.
The House of Commons votes by dividing. Those voting Aye (yes) to any proposition walk through the division lobby to the right of the Speaker and those voting no through the lobby to the left. In each of the lobbies there are desks occupied by Clerks who tick Members' names off division lists as they pass through. Then at the exit doors the Members are counted by two Members acting as tellers. The Speaker calls for a vote by announcing "Clear the Lobbies". In the House of Lords "Clear the Bar" is called. Division Bells ring throughout the building and the police direct all Strangers to leave the vicinity of the Members’ Lobby. They also walk through the public rooms of the House shouting "division". MPs have eight minutes to get to the Division Lobby before the doors are closed. Members make their way to the Chamber, where Whips are on hand to remind the uncertain which way, if any, their party is voting. Meanwhile the Clerks who will take the names of those voting have taken their place at the high tables with the alphabetical lists of MPs' names on which ticks are made to record the vote. When the tellers are ready the counting process begins - the recording of names by the Clerk and the counting of heads by the tellers. When both lobbies have been counted and the figures entered on a card this is given to the Speaker who reads the figures and announces "So the Ayes [or Noes] have it". In the House of Lords the process is the same except that the Lobbies are called the Contents Lobby and the Not Contents Lobby. Unlike many other legislatures, the House of Commons and the House of Lords have not adopted a mechanical or electronic means of voting. This was considered in 1998 but rejected. Divisions rarely take less than ten minutes and those where most Members are voting usually take about fifteen. Further information can be obtained from factsheet P9 at the UK Parliament site.
