Outdoor Relief.

Oral Answers to Questions — China. – in the House of Commons am ar 6 Gorffennaf 1925.

Danfonwch hysbysiad imi am ddadleuon fel hyn

Photo of Mr William Thorne Mr William Thorne , West Ham Plaistow

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asked the Minister of Health if he will issue a statement showing the amount of relief paid out by the various boards of guardians to single persons living at home; single persons who are living away from home; married couples without dependants; and married couples with dependants, either in money or in kind?

Photo of Sir Kingsley Wood Sir Kingsley Wood , Woolwich West

The majority of boards of guardians do not work to a definite scale, and even where a scale has been adopted it is commonly used as a general guide and not applied automatically. Complete information as to the scales adopted even as working rules is not available, but my right hon. Friend has particulars of the scales in existence in a. number of unions, and he will be glad to make available such information as he has for a number of representative districts.

Photo of Mr John Jones Mr John Jones , West Ham Silvertown

If the Department have not got full information of the various scales, why do they select an arbitrary scale for a different district?

Photo of Mr John Jones Mr John Jones , West Ham Silvertown

I am asking a question, and I want an answer.

Photo of Mr John Whitley Mr John Whitley , Halifax

May I remind the hon. Member that no answer can be made while he is standing.

Photo of Sir Kingsley Wood Sir Kingsley Wood , Woolwich West

The hon. Member is under a misapprehension.

Photo of Mr John Jones Mr John Jones , West Ham Silvertown

In the case of West Ham, we have been told that we are paying more than we ought to pay. [HON. MEMBERS: "Speech!"] The hon. Member has said that the Department have no scale themselves. [HON. MEMBERS: "Speech!"] It is not a speech, it is a fact. In view of the hon. Member's own admission that the Department have no scale of their own, why do they single out a particular district, and say that they shall not pay a particular scale?

Photo of Sir Kingsley Wood Sir Kingsley Wood , Woolwich West

The hon. Member is under a misapprehension. The West Ham Guardians are asking that money should be lent to them, and conditions have been laid down to insure that the money shall be properly spent.

Photo of Mr John Jones Mr John Jones , West Ham Silvertown

What other means have they of obtaining money except by doubling the rates?

Photo of Mr Horace Crawfurd Mr Horace Crawfurd , Walthamstow West

Arising out of the original answer, does that mean that the information will be circulated in the OFFICIAL REPORT?

Photo of Mr William Mackinder Mr William Mackinder , Shipley

Is it a fact that one of the conditions laid down is that the maximum for a married man with a family shall be not more than 45s., while some guardians may give 70s. [Interruption.]

Photo of Mr John Whitley Mr John Whitley , Halifax

The hon. Member has already taken up a good deal of time.

An HON. MEMBER: Look after the Chinese.

Photo of Mr William Mackinder Mr William Mackinder , Shipley

In view of that nasty reference with regard to a previous question, which was asked to elicit information, may I ask, Mr. Speaker, for your protection? I will land the hon. Member one, if he says that to me again. He had better come outside.