Nobody expects the Minister of Transport, at this juncture in the consideration of the Bill which is probably before the Government, to give any detailed reply as to the nature of the Bill which will be introduced. The hon. and gallant Member for Chatham (Lieut.-Colonel Moore-Brabazon) has warned the Minister, or has asked him to recognise that the present is not the time when the ideal of a Greater London scheme can be carried out. It has been suggested by the right hon. and gallant Member for the New Forest (Colonel Ashley) that the only difficulty in the way of the rapid passage of a Transport Bill for London, is the London Labour party. That misrepresentation has been cultivated by the Conservative party and by ex-Ministers who, if they had only handled the question rationally, might have brought about a settlement of the problem. There has been persistent misrepresentations as to the position of hon. Members on these benches, by the Conservative party, by ex-Ministers, I am afraid also by certain officials and by the Conservative Press. It is a gross misrepresentation to suggest that the Labour Members representing Greater London are fighting to the death at this juncture for an ideal re-organisation of London government. We stand in the end, it is true, for a general municipal authority controlling all the essentially large-scale services of a local character over the Greater London area, over the metropolitan police district or something like the proposed electricity district suggested by the Electricity Commissioners under the Act of 1919. In the end that will be the only satisfactory way of dealing with London traffic, which is intimately associated with all the other departments of local government in the Metropolis. You cannot divorce traffic considerations from town-planning; that is why the hon. and gallant Gentleman's predecessor proposed to introduce town-planning in the Bill. If you do that, you are involved in the whole question of where the people are to live. Then you must face the questions of education, of water, of electricity, of main drainage, and the whole field of local government. The danger is the specialist, the man who wants to make roads till the whole world shall consist of roads. The man who was most prominently identified with the Conservative party's policy in this matter was a gentleman who knew a great deal about roads but not a great deal about the philosophy of local government.