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asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer the names of the members of the Departmental Committee who are to consider the School Teachers (Superannuation) Act, 1918, in accordance with the terms of the reference already announced?

The following have been invited, and hay, consented, to serve on the Committee to which the hon. Member refers:

• The Right Hon. Lord Emmett, G.C.M.G., G.E.E. (Chairman).
• Lord Kenyon, K.C.V.O.
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• Sir Albert Hobson.
• Sir Michael Sadler, C.B.
• Sir J. Struthers, K.C.B.
• Sir A. W. Watson, K.C.B.
• Miss S. M. Fry.
• Duncan Fraser, Esq.
• W. L. Hichens, Esq.
• Hugh R. Rathbone, Esq.
• H. J. Simmonds, Esq., C.B., C.B.E.
• G. C. Upcott, Esq., C.B

Can the right hon. Gentleman say whether any and, if so, how many are officials of the Board of Education?

I do not think any of them are officials of the Board of Education, but Sir J. Struthers has long served in the Scottish Office.

Mr. T. THOMSON:

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asked the President of the Board of Education the amounts paid by the Government in each of the last two years in the way of pensions to teachers in elementary schools, in secondary schools, and in technical and other schools and the amounts which he estimates he should receive in each of the next two years from a contribution of 5 per cent. on the salaries then payable to teachers in elementary, in secondary, and in technical and other schools?

The PARLIAMENTARY SECRETARY to the BOARD of EDUCATION (Mr. Herbert Lewis):

The amounts spent on superannuation of teachers during the last two years are as follow:—

1920–21	£1,245,392
1921–22	£1,552,723

Many teachers retiring from secondary and technical schools have served in elementary schools, and pensions cannot be classified in separate categories relating to service in elementary, secondary and technical schools. The receipts from contributions in 1022–23 are, approximately, estimated at £1,925,000, and the estimates for 1923–24 will in due course be submitted to Parliament, but the estimated total for a full year is approximately £2,300,000.

Mr. THOMSON:

Do not those figures show a considerable balance in excess of the amount paid out to the teachers?

Mr. LEWIS:

The expenditure on pensions will grow from year to year. If my memory serves me rightly, the cost will amount to between £4,000,000 and £5,000,000 in 1929, and will amount to from £9,000,000 to £10,000,000, ultimately. Therefore there is no reason for limiting the contribution in the earlier years to the actual cost.