Part of the debate – in the House of Commons am ar 3 Mai 1922.
We are all pleased that the Home Secretary has made the statement he made to-night, and we are looking forward to the possibility of a joint conference at which these important matters can be discussed. I wish to point out some of the matters which must come under review in connection with any new Measure to be brought before the House. First, some steps must be taken to reduce the cost of litigation. Why it should be necessary to call a long list of medical men to prove whether a man is a malingerer or not, passes my comprehension. In scores, if not hundreds, of cases, in which I have been concerned, three specialists have been called to prove a man a malingerer, and three others to prove the contrary, all at a very high cost. One contradicts the other, and the need for calling them is not apparent to me. Something ought to be done by which some easier and simpler method of ascertaining the exact position could be arrived at. I know there are the assessors, and I know there are means adopted to-day which do not quite remove our cause of complaint.
The second point we have to consider is in regard to compulsory insurance. I am agreed with compulsory insurance, and I have only been responsible for a few strikes in my life, in refusing to allow men to work for men with rotten gear and no money with which to pay compensation, and who would not insure, and I have indeed many and many a time agreed with men refusing to work for that kind of employer. Something ought to be done when the insurance is effected to prevent agents going to men in distress and inducing thorn—compelling them almost—to accept miserable sums in settlement. If we had time, I could give many such cases, but they are so numerous that we are all familiar with the evil. The third point I wish to make is one that has not been mentioned to-night. In the existing Act there was one of the wisest provisions introduced that has ever been conceived in connection with insurance against injuries, and that is the section dealing with industrial diseases. That has been a beneficent section, and has done an immense amount of good, not only in the prevention of diseases, but in having compelled many employers to resort to methods of improvement in their workshops. I hope that in any fresh legislation on this subject it will be made easier for industries to be included under that section. At the present time you have to prove your case and get your industry scheduled, and to my knowledge many and many an industry which I know is injurious to health has failed to get included in the Schedule under the Act. Consequently men are suffering in health to-day. I will go so far as to say that all industries ought to be included under that Clause and be required to prove afterwards that they are not dangerous to health. That would be the simpler and easier way. I am drawing attention to these three points in regard to which hardships arise, and I am sure that with generous treatment, and the continuance of the kindly good feeling that has been expressed on every hand here to-night, these things will be improved upon and will be greatly beneficial to the industrial community.